The real reason is insurance companies can’t milk every last cent out of socialized medicine.
jitterscaffeine on
That’s kind of always been the thing with social services. People will fight against their own self interest to keep it out of the hands of people they think don’t deserve it.
11th_Division_Grows on
Which is crazy because even if I hate your guts I don’t think you should have to die a slow and painful death in our health system.
Genuinely can’t fathom why other people would want that for others AND themselves as long as it denies the people they don’t like from the benefits.
seiffer55 on
Because the ultra rich don’t want to pay their taxes that would provide it.
ten_year_rebound on
Rich people don’t want POOR people to have it. They hate anyone poorer than them ubiquitously. When we stop placing the race label on everything to divide us maybe we’d be able to confront the real enemy on a united front.
The Epstein files have the rich elite literally talking about how to “get rid of all the poor people”. Not all the black people, Hispanic people, Asian people, Indian people etc. They want everyone gone.
LitoFly on
Seems like this is the answer to a lot of social problems. Just plain ol racism
xanroeld on
Rich people do not want poor people to have it. Business owners – who benefit from the fact that their employees are reliant on their jobs for their healthcare – do not want people to have universal healthcare. This is a 1% vs the 99 issue.
Pure_Interest_837 on
There’s A LOT of conservative black voters who wouldn’t support a candidate running on universal healthcare as soon as the word “socialist” is attached to it.
dsmooth74 on
a lot money being made on folks going bankrupt because of medical bills
ham_solo on
Read “Dying of Whiteness”. It explains really clearly how the GOP rejection of universal healthcare, public education, and stricter gun laws is tightly interwoven with systemic racism.
KarlUnderguard on
Colleges used to be free until desegregation.
Cum_Fart42069 on
this is been consistent throughout history, white people will vote to not have their lives improved because it means that black people’s lives would also improve and for some of them that just intolerable.
Slight_Seat_5546 on
Scientific racism is the reason why we do not have universal healthcare in the US. Thom Hartmann describes why then CEO of Prudential Frederick Hoffman created a health care system in America that would never include universal coverage because of blacks in America.
People in power don’t want people without power to have it. Let’s not make everything about race. Plenty of ethnic minorities change their political stripes once they gain a sufficient amount of funds lol.
Lydian04 on
My father thinks it will be used to get abortions, so there’s certainly those kinds of people.
Maleficent-Ad9010 on
The irony here is that poor people get free medi-cal in California while the working class and rich have to pay.
b__noc on
This is 100% rooted in racism, when all European countries went to universal healthcare US didn’t because of racism, they decided to go with jobs paying for health care which were usually white collared jobs
Critical-Promise4984 on
Does anyone actually think this lol
veverkap on
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
Lyndon B. Johnson
mystghost on
This isn’t fair. This isn’t a race thing it’s 100% a class thing. And insurance companies don’t want you to have it because it fits their industry. Keep your eyes on the road
ehs06702 on
Reminder that Truman was ready to give this country universal healthcare post WW2, and people revolted because part of that would have called for the desegregation of hospitals and medical services.
Karhak on
Everything that would benefit everyone is opposed by republican voters because people they don’t want to allow *them* to benefit.
Even if it might help them, their friends and family, if an “undesirable” also gets it, it’s broken.
You see it when they talk about welfare. When *they* need it, it’s because they’ve fallen on hard times, but if anyone with melanin does, it’s because they’re lazy and cheating the system. It’s their stance when it comes to *everything*.
I mean look how fast the super pro 2A crowd fell over themselves to justify Alex Pretti’s murder just because he was carrying legally and agreed that people shouldn’t be armed at a protest despite doing thr same thing during their covid lockdown protests.
They don’t want the “others” to have rights or benefits because they don’t view them as people deserving of such things.
ProBoogerFlicker on
I’ve never understood that way of thinking, especially with medical/dental matters.
You hate people that look like me so much that you would rather suffer/die from (insert medical condition) than have everyone helped?
Hefty-Profession-310 on
White people don’t even want it for other white people
MrEllis72 on
Rich people don’t want anyone to have it. Where is the shareholder value in healthy people…
SeasonsGone on
What percentage of black voters support candidates who campaign on universal healthcare?
medusa3339 on
Because Republicans hate the idea of paying into something that other people would benefit from— mind you, they would benefit, *too*, however it’s the principle of the matter of helping others out for them. It’s “not their responsibility”, even though the religious text they often cite from says otherwise…
ecchi83 on
The most clear proof of this is how Republicans hate of the universities like Harvard and Columbia and Stanford because they poison the minds of students with their ultra liberal classes. They hate those schools to the point that SoD Hegseth banned military from getting their highest degrees from there.
But the only thing that Republicans hate more than those schools? Black people going to those schools. They hate the idea of Black achievements so much that they made it a crusade to prevent us from getting admitted to the places they hate and call evil.
TehBoos on
I’m definitely not an economist or history buff, but I was under the impression that we had a fairly large social safety net thanks to FDR that was slowly chipped away over decades because nonwhite people were gaining access to them as well.
NeverEnoughGalbi on
The Atlantic published an article that said research shows states with a higher proportion of white populations have more generous public assistance benefits than states with larger non-white populations.
The answer is always racism.
Iguessimonredditnow on
There was a time where I was against this earlier on in life when I was more naive.
My reasoning was that I don’t trust the government to spend money efficiently because they add a ton of bloat to all government contracts for people to slim off of. Companies get rich rather than people getting adequate services.
At this point in my life I realize that it already happens with for profit insurance companies and to a much worse standard of care.
So if you’re going to tax me and take my money anyway, then at the very least every single person should have access to healthcare at a level comparable or better than other developed nations.
SaxN3ko on
Remember reading somewhere, “A white man would shit his pants so the Black man next to him would have to smell it.”
Limp-Management9684 on
*Racist* white people don’t want black people to have it. Also, billionaires and CEOs want to use it as a lever of coercion.
burgonies on
Isn’t that tweet pretty lowkey racist since most people in the US get healthcare through their job.
swiftvalentine on
Free healthcare is worth the extra taxes. I wouldn’t be here without socialised medicine. I’d be dead. My child would have no father. Everyone here in the UK has that right and I can’t imagine what the mental load is like for Americans. In the richest country in the world with the best doctors and facilities you have to think whether it’s worth living based on the financial burden on your family for keeping you alive. You’ll happily spend billions making Israel into an aircraft carrier to deliver death to the Middle East but not look after your people.
notyogrannysgrandkid on
Because health insurance companies can afford to pay senators to keep it from happening
TechnicalBack899 on
The quicker people realize it’s not a black & white thing, but a poor v. rich thing, the quicker change can come
Tadpolethesnowman on
Daily reminder that your favorite health insurance companies used to sell slave insurance policies.
The heirs of the slave trade will do anything to distract you from the fact that our financial and property-owning institutions built their fortunes on a genocide and then never paid reparations.
Oddwillo on
Also, the reason why public education been systematically gutted for decades
Acceptable_Mountain5 on
Yeah, it’s waaaay more about controlling the working class than it is about racism, but the loudest voices are always the bigots
Nikonar on
Pretty sure it’s more of an upper class not wanting to pay for poor people.
Slatedtoprone on
Because rich people don’t want the poors to have better, longer lives. Then they will just want more, like better quality of life and more social programs. And how can the rich keep 13 yachts if you want your grandma to get her diabetes medication?!
chaosind on
That’s not fair. White people also don’t want less well-off white people to have it. And those less well off white people? Why they’re just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, they’ll take care of it once they strike it rich.
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Easy to control us when it’s tied to our jobs…..
this is historically verifiable
The real reason is insurance companies can’t milk every last cent out of socialized medicine.
That’s kind of always been the thing with social services. People will fight against their own self interest to keep it out of the hands of people they think don’t deserve it.
Which is crazy because even if I hate your guts I don’t think you should have to die a slow and painful death in our health system.
Genuinely can’t fathom why other people would want that for others AND themselves as long as it denies the people they don’t like from the benefits.
Because the ultra rich don’t want to pay their taxes that would provide it.
Rich people don’t want POOR people to have it. They hate anyone poorer than them ubiquitously. When we stop placing the race label on everything to divide us maybe we’d be able to confront the real enemy on a united front.
The Epstein files have the rich elite literally talking about how to “get rid of all the poor people”. Not all the black people, Hispanic people, Asian people, Indian people etc. They want everyone gone.
Seems like this is the answer to a lot of social problems. Just plain ol racism
Rich people do not want poor people to have it. Business owners – who benefit from the fact that their employees are reliant on their jobs for their healthcare – do not want people to have universal healthcare. This is a 1% vs the 99 issue.
There’s A LOT of conservative black voters who wouldn’t support a candidate running on universal healthcare as soon as the word “socialist” is attached to it.
a lot money being made on folks going bankrupt because of medical bills
Read “Dying of Whiteness”. It explains really clearly how the GOP rejection of universal healthcare, public education, and stricter gun laws is tightly interwoven with systemic racism.
Colleges used to be free until desegregation.
this is been consistent throughout history, white people will vote to not have their lives improved because it means that black people’s lives would also improve and for some of them that just intolerable.
Scientific racism is the reason why we do not have universal healthcare in the US. Thom Hartmann describes why then CEO of Prudential Frederick Hoffman created a health care system in America that would never include universal coverage because of blacks in America.
[https://hartmannreport.com/p/america-needs-a-national-healthcare](https://hartmannreport.com/p/america-needs-a-national-healthcare)
People in power don’t want people without power to have it. Let’s not make everything about race. Plenty of ethnic minorities change their political stripes once they gain a sufficient amount of funds lol.
My father thinks it will be used to get abortions, so there’s certainly those kinds of people.
The irony here is that poor people get free medi-cal in California while the working class and rich have to pay.
This is 100% rooted in racism, when all European countries went to universal healthcare US didn’t because of racism, they decided to go with jobs paying for health care which were usually white collared jobs
Does anyone actually think this lol
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
Lyndon B. Johnson
This isn’t fair. This isn’t a race thing it’s 100% a class thing. And insurance companies don’t want you to have it because it fits their industry. Keep your eyes on the road
Reminder that Truman was ready to give this country universal healthcare post WW2, and people revolted because part of that would have called for the desegregation of hospitals and medical services.
Everything that would benefit everyone is opposed by republican voters because people they don’t want to allow *them* to benefit.
Even if it might help them, their friends and family, if an “undesirable” also gets it, it’s broken.
You see it when they talk about welfare. When *they* need it, it’s because they’ve fallen on hard times, but if anyone with melanin does, it’s because they’re lazy and cheating the system. It’s their stance when it comes to *everything*.
I mean look how fast the super pro 2A crowd fell over themselves to justify Alex Pretti’s murder just because he was carrying legally and agreed that people shouldn’t be armed at a protest despite doing thr same thing during their covid lockdown protests.
They don’t want the “others” to have rights or benefits because they don’t view them as people deserving of such things.
I’ve never understood that way of thinking, especially with medical/dental matters.
You hate people that look like me so much that you would rather suffer/die from (insert medical condition) than have everyone helped?
White people don’t even want it for other white people
Rich people don’t want anyone to have it. Where is the shareholder value in healthy people…
What percentage of black voters support candidates who campaign on universal healthcare?
Because Republicans hate the idea of paying into something that other people would benefit from— mind you, they would benefit, *too*, however it’s the principle of the matter of helping others out for them. It’s “not their responsibility”, even though the religious text they often cite from says otherwise…
The most clear proof of this is how Republicans hate of the universities like Harvard and Columbia and Stanford because they poison the minds of students with their ultra liberal classes. They hate those schools to the point that SoD Hegseth banned military from getting their highest degrees from there.
But the only thing that Republicans hate more than those schools? Black people going to those schools. They hate the idea of Black achievements so much that they made it a crusade to prevent us from getting admitted to the places they hate and call evil.
I’m definitely not an economist or history buff, but I was under the impression that we had a fairly large social safety net thanks to FDR that was slowly chipped away over decades because nonwhite people were gaining access to them as well.
The Atlantic published an article that said research shows states with a higher proportion of white populations have more generous public assistance benefits than states with larger non-white populations.
The answer is always racism.
There was a time where I was against this earlier on in life when I was more naive.
My reasoning was that I don’t trust the government to spend money efficiently because they add a ton of bloat to all government contracts for people to slim off of. Companies get rich rather than people getting adequate services.
At this point in my life I realize that it already happens with for profit insurance companies and to a much worse standard of care.
So if you’re going to tax me and take my money anyway, then at the very least every single person should have access to healthcare at a level comparable or better than other developed nations.
Remember reading somewhere, “A white man would shit his pants so the Black man next to him would have to smell it.”
*Racist* white people don’t want black people to have it. Also, billionaires and CEOs want to use it as a lever of coercion.
Isn’t that tweet pretty lowkey racist since most people in the US get healthcare through their job.
Free healthcare is worth the extra taxes. I wouldn’t be here without socialised medicine. I’d be dead. My child would have no father. Everyone here in the UK has that right and I can’t imagine what the mental load is like for Americans. In the richest country in the world with the best doctors and facilities you have to think whether it’s worth living based on the financial burden on your family for keeping you alive. You’ll happily spend billions making Israel into an aircraft carrier to deliver death to the Middle East but not look after your people.
Because health insurance companies can afford to pay senators to keep it from happening
The quicker people realize it’s not a black & white thing, but a poor v. rich thing, the quicker change can come
Daily reminder that your favorite health insurance companies used to sell slave insurance policies.
The heirs of the slave trade will do anything to distract you from the fact that our financial and property-owning institutions built their fortunes on a genocide and then never paid reparations.
Also, the reason why public education been systematically gutted for decades
Yeah, it’s waaaay more about controlling the working class than it is about racism, but the loudest voices are always the bigots
Pretty sure it’s more of an upper class not wanting to pay for poor people.
Because rich people don’t want the poors to have better, longer lives. Then they will just want more, like better quality of life and more social programs. And how can the rich keep 13 yachts if you want your grandma to get her diabetes medication?!
That’s not fair. White people also don’t want less well-off white people to have it. And those less well off white people? Why they’re just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, they’ll take care of it once they strike it rich.
Money rules everything around us